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Episodes

China's Not the Problem. We Are.
May 14, 2026
The United States and China are really the only two countries that matter right now in shaping the A.I. future. As President Trump and President Xi Jinping meet in Beijing, there’s a kind of Cold War…
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A Legendary Investor on How to Prevent America’s Coming ‘Heart Attack’
May 07, 2026
A stalemated war. Fractured alliances. A rival waiting in the wings. It feels to me that we’re having an “end of the American empire” moment. My guest this week, Ray Dalio, is an unlikely prophet of…
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Why Are We Still Driving?
Apr 30, 2026
Self-driving cars are here. But what kind of future will they bring: safe roads and extra time or dystopian traffic jams? My guest this week is Andrew Miller, who writes about self-driving cars and…
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Introducing ‘Interesting Times’
Apr 06, 2025
There’s a saying that comes to mind these days: May you live in interesting times. It’s understood to be a curse, even though it sounds like a blessing. “Interesting Times With Ross Douthat” is a new…
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