Ben Thompson
May 19, 2026
Ben and Chris talk with tech analyst Ben Thompson about the future. Is AI heaven, or hell, or both? Does the future belong to China or the United States? What’s the deal with Silicon Valley and does…
We’re all dying, but some of us have been brought face to face with that reality. Reflecting on this certainty is part of a life well lived. However long we’ve got, it’s up to each of us to redeem the time. In this new podcast, hosts Ben Sasse and Chris Stirewalt talk with their guests about lives lived with gratitude, grit, and joy.
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Clint Black
May 12, 2026
Singer, songwriter, musician, actor, and record producer Clint Black joins underachievers Ben and Chris. The gang talks about country music, writing, parenting, career choices, and gratitude. How…
Clayton Anderson
May 05, 2026
Astronaut and Nebraskan Clayton Anderson joins the guys to talk about all things space. The human desire to explore, the vocation of spacewalking hundreds of miles above the earth, the rigors of…
Walter Russell Mead
Apr 28, 2026
Renaissance man Walter Russell Mead joins the guys to talk about history and global affairs. This episode has everything: Hamiltonians, Jeffersonians, Jacksonians, Wilsonians, Israel, Iran, tech…
Nicholas Eberstadt
Apr 21, 2026
Ben and Chris talk a bit about their first jobs and how child labor laws are ruining the country. Then things get super nerdy when Nicholas Eberstadt joins the guys to talk about demographic decline…
Drew and Ellie Holcomb
Apr 14, 2026
Drew and Ellie join the guys to talk about family, art, and soul. Ben has no rhythm, but the musicians talk about art as ache, embodied prayer, and yearning for home. Also, make your kids listen to…
Jonah Goldberg
Apr 07, 2026
Jonah joins the boys for their first in-person podcast. Friendship, morphine (higher than average morphine-brain for Ben), note cards, institutions, and journalism. Ben and Chris talk about the why…
Chris Pratt
Mar 31, 2026
The guys talk about hard work and hustle, the choices parents make, the ups, downs, and idols of success, and real vs Ned Flanders Christianity. The dude from Avengers, Jurassic Park, and Super Mario…
Amy Coney Barrett
Mar 24, 2026
Justice Barrett joins Ben and Chris. Ben shares his status as the founding member of the ACB for SCOTUS club. The three talk about how she writes her opinions, how parenting slows down the train, the…
Mike Rowe
Mar 17, 2026
Is the Dirty Jobs guy secretly America’s most popular philosopher? Mike Rowe joins the guys. This episode has everything: vomit, Stoics, turkey insemination, philosopher welders, wonder, and the…
Caitlin Flanagan
Mar 10, 2026
Caitlin runs circles around the guys. They talk about deadlines (for writing and living), living with cancer, raising families, how truth has the last word, and a little bit about California.
Conan O'Brien
Mar 03, 2026
Who doesn’t love two Harvard dweebs talking about jokes rather than telling them? The guys talk with Conan O’Brien about dopamine, families, why politicians aren’t funny, his new movie with Rose…
Al Michaels
Feb 24, 2026
The guys promised Conan, but when the USA defeats Canada in hockey — 46 years to the day after the 1980 Miracle on Ice — you gotta talk to Al Michaels. Ben, Chris, and Al talk about that incredible…
Introduction
Feb 19, 2026
They’re on the clock! In the kickoff episode, Ben and Chris talk about terminal cancer, procrastination, morphine, and parenting — all to explain why they’re launching a podcast now about redeeming…